Patched Wangs and RIP Sean “Ace” O’Connor

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Today’s show starts with a discussion about the recent passing of one of the earliest OCR race directors Sean “Ace” O’Connor. Links to his obituary and a video from July 2012 Superhero Scramble are in the show notes and on our website.

Then we talk to Amanda Nelson, who has come back from the brink of jail, insanity, and death to a whole new life through fitness.

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Show Notes:


Obituary for Sean.

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Warrior Dash Obstacle Collapse Investigation – Red Frog Responds

This morning, Louisiana based “The Advocate” released information regarding an investigation concerning the failure of an obstacle at last year’s Warrior Dash near Baton Rouge, LA. The obstacle named “Diesel Dome” collapsed at a race on October 8, 2016 and sent at least 11 people to a local hospital with various injuries.

The event and the investigation that followed has led to unprecedented actions in the OCR industry.

Local authorities who have issued arrest warrants on 5 workers connected to the event. According to The Advocate article:

“The warrants accuse the contractors of negligent injuring, and the employees of both negligent injury and engaging in business of contracting without authority.”

There have been at least 3 OCR related deaths dating back to 2011, the most famous being the 2013 drowning of Avi Sengupta at a Tough Mudder obstacle. However, there have never been warrants issued or criminal charges filed against anyone in association with these deaths. Nor have their been been criminal charges that have occurred following any injuries at any obstacle races.

We reached out to Red Frog, Warrior Dash’s parent company, as soon as possible for a statement. They told us:

“Our understanding from local authorities is that summons may be issued but there are no arrest warrants against Red Frog employees.  We’ve worked closely with the fire marshal’s office and investigators since the accident that occurred at Warrior Dash on October 8, 2016 and nothing we saw, read or heard during that investigation would warrant criminal charges. One of the employees being charged was not even at the event or involved with the planning of the event.  Therefore, we are eager to see the fire marshal’s report.  Since we have not seen the report, we cannot comment on it or the nature of any allegations against specific individuals”

ORM also reached out to several other race companies for a quote and/or their thoughts on how this may affect the OCR industry. Spartan Race CEO Joe DeSena told us “An incident like this is unfortunate and shines a spotlight on the how imperative build standards are for the Obstacle Racing industry”. At press time, no other race series chose to comment.

Below is a video from a 2016 Warrior Dash event with the Diesel Dome obstacle functioning properly.

Joel Getty

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Joel Getty Interview 2

Today’s show brings you the OCR guy we’ve known the longest, never to have appeared on the show. Hard to believe, but Joel Getty makes his first appearance on the show after knowing Matt for 5 years plus. Joel and Matt dig into the good ole days of circa 2012 obstacle racing industry, what brought Joel into OCR, what took Joel out of it, and Joel’s “Last Hurrah” at the “Last” Tough Guy.

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Show Notes:

Joel’s Goodbye Article

Inside Obstacle News YouTube

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Asheville Spartan 2017 Part Two

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This episode could also be called : Asheville Finish Line Fun Plus Messner.

First you are going to hear several back to back interviews from the finish line at the Asheville Spartan Super.

Ryan Woods, Matt Kempson, Hobie Call, Robert Killian, Ian Hosek, Cody King, Nicole Mericle, Lindsay Webster, Rea Kobl, Faye Stenning, Alyssa Hawley, and a few more special drop in guests.

Then I have my first sit down with Laura Messner. 5 years worth of episodes, and I have never had Laura on the show. So it was nice to have her come by the ORM tent for a (mostly) uninterrupted chat.

Todays Podcast is sponsored by:

The Barber Beast  – Sept 9, 2017. 10 miles. 30 obstacles. 1 goal. 

Rugged Maniac – $5 off when you use the code PODCAST.

Show Notes:

Laura Messner on IG

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Muddy Mortal Cancels

The event launched last fall as Muddy Muggle, and later became Muddy Mortal, cancelled all events and ceased operations as of this afternoon. Obstacle Racing Media has been looking into the validity of these events since late June, when we began to receive questions from consumers looking for answers from “postponed events”.

Event owner Jamie Guined launched FitGeek Events in late 2016 and began advertising their events in several cities. Each location event promised a weekend of activity including an obstacle race, costume contest, and several other Harry Potter themed events. (Full disclosure, ORM was paid for advertising Muddy Mortal’s calendar of events up until April of this year.)

The first Muddy Mortals were to take place this spring/summer in Dallas, Seattle, Temecula, and Flagstaff. Each event location was “postponed” by the event organizers for a variety of reasons.

Consumers were justifiably upset and began to ask for refunds. FitGeek Events created a form for participants to fill out in order to get their money back. Jamie Guined and FitGeek Eventes asked those that filled out the form to wait up to 90 days to receive that refund.

We reached out to Jamie at this point to find out the future plans for her company. She wrote back:

As we stated in our previous email reply:

1) We have not “cancelled” any of our currently scheduled events, but due to circumstances beyond our control, we did have to postpone the first events. 

2) All registered participants for the affected events have received communication from our company regarding their alternatives (including refunds, transfers, etc. on a case-by-case basis). 

Thank you for sending along the questions for our review so we had an opportunity to ensure that the correct information was published, rather than adding to the ongoing false information and libel. 

At the same time, Muddy Mortal closed registration on many of the events on the EventBee registration platform, and posted that they were looking for a new registration partner.

The next event was to take place August 11-13th at Colorado Off Road Extreme Park (CORE). We received word from CORE late on Sunday August 6th that Jamie Guined had not made final payment for the venue, and was looking to again postpone the weekend events. Word began circulating quickly about these new revelations on social media. 

By 11:00 am this morning, the Muddy Mortal Facebook page was down, Muddy Mortal’s website took down all of their events, and Jamie Guined had removed her LinkedIn page.

As of 7:00pm, the following message was available on the Muddy Mortal website:

Muddy Mortal Cancel Bankruptcy

Sadly, this is not the first time event owners have attempted to defraud customers with false promises. Many have experienced similar issues with Lozilu, or other fly by night themed races. The good news is that there is recourse for many through your bank or credit card company. A former bank claims department member in the racing community, Jeremy Lopez-Decot, gave specific language to use. He told us:

Please note you do NOT want to use the word “Fraud” … Fraud means a purchase that you did not initiate. Since you gave your card information to Muddy Mortal, this would be called a merchant dispute. You need to be honest that you indeed gave over your information but that the services promised were not delivered. You want to do this as soon as possible as there are time limits for you to be able to make a claim with the bank.

While many may not receive refunds, and many more are upset about a promised experience that never happened, we want to point out something you may not have thought of. Many of you helped shut this event down and saved hundreds or even thousands of victims a similar fate. Once upon a time, a company could continue to defraud people for months or years, even in the Facebook Age, because there wasn’t enough cross country chatter. By refusing to be quiet, or “only speaking positive” when something didn’t feel right, you helped speed up the process to put this company out of business.

A quick final note, we at ORM have received several phone calls and emails about people who were are aware of previous fraudulent activity by event owner Jamie Guined. We are currently pursuing this larger story. If you have any information about Jamie or any of these events, please reach out to us as soon as possible.Muddy Mortal Cancel Jamie Guined 2


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Asheville Spartan 2017 Part One

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2017 Asheville Spartan Race weekend was dare I say a hootenanny. We recorded at least two episodes worth of podcast content. Today’s show kicks off with conversations with:

  • Rea Kolbl
  • Faye Stenning
  • Steve Hammond
  • Brakken Kraker
  • Kevin “Bubbles The Clown” Gregory
  • Jaxson Davis

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